UNESCO postcard and general discussion

I wanted to create a space for some general UNESCO discussion, now that there is no longer a sub-forum. I hope that is the right place.

This topic is for discussion, not for starting swaps, etc. Use this topic to ask questions about sites or the list, get help identifying what a card shows, talk about places you have visited, etc.

Swaps can be started in the trade section.

For starters, I was wondering about the Tentative List. The list of inscribed properties is easy to find and can be downloaded in multiple formats. But I can’t find a combined list of the tentative sites. Does anyone know how to find this? On the tentative list page you can click on each country, so for example, if I look at Australia, I can see three properties, one of which is new to me. But I’m certainly not going to do this for every country. @SLLiew is our expert, so maybe they can help.

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Hahaha… I am not expert - thanks for your kind words.

The tentative list is quite long and for some countries - they listed like from 20 to over 60 tentative list sites - many of the these lesser known sites unlikely to be nominated if the UNESCO WHS rule is for 1 site inscribed per year for each country to prevent domination.

Nonetheless, the list of tentative list is a great way to learn of each country.

In my blog of tentative list, I have just copied the list from each country one by one. The list is constantly updated and so my list may not be current for some countries.

http://worldheritagetentativelist.blogspot.com/

My other tentative list in postcrossing forum has not been updated for awhile.

Certain major countries like Germany, Japan, South Korea, USA has fewer tentative list but very often every year, get a new UNESCO WHS inscription and hence are the countries most worthy to collect postcards of tentative lists as they will have a higher chance of being converted to a UNESCO WHS.

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I doubt if there is one, and if someone has it, if they have it totally updated. The tentative lists change very often. The tentatives are not a “definitive list” like the other list (and even the official list is not definitive, UNESCO can delist the places if they don’t keep some standards/obligations).

The tentative list is something (buildings or not) that the country wants to see listed as a World Heritage place. To be analyzed by the Committee in July, the State of the country must be sure they have acomplished all the requirements to be listed.

Sometimes, when the country sees they have no option to be listed, they take the nomination off, or change it in a different candidature.

Every year the Committee takes some of the candidatures and analyze, if they will be WH or not. If the answer is no, then that place cannot be a candidate anymore (I’m not 100% sure about this, I think I read it somewhere).

So, if you want to collect the tentative lists too, be prepared for a lot of work updating all the countries each year and to “lost” some nominations sometimes.

The official list has had only 2 places delisted so far, btw.

Another interesting fact, for whom wants to search more. Some entries can have hundreds of places “hidden”. For example, the Routes of Santiago de Compostela:

You can have a card about the Caminhos in general (there are a lot) but to be accurate and if you want to have all the places inscribed in the list, you should have a card of the hundreds of churches and chappels lost behind the sunset :rofl: that are part of the Route. It’s a big world, this collection! And it’s the most interesting to do, I advise everyone interested to start soon and to keep the list updated. :sunglasses:

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What do you all do about the delisted sites? Do you keep them in your collection / hope to get a card to add to your collection or ignore the site / remove cards about it from your collection?

Since both sites are still written on the list, only with the remark “delisted” (or are they crossed out?), I treat them in my collection like all the other sites. I only have cards of the German delisted site (Dresden), but they are among my other UNESCO cards.

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I collect those, too and mark them as delisted in my collection. Like this:

I number the sites chronologically and don’t like if there is a gap :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yes, I also have the files on my computer numbered in chronological order for each country. So the Dresden cards are right in there :slight_smile:

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Thanks everyone for your responses.

I made myself an initial list this way and was hoping to avoid doing that much work again. And I definitely won’t be going through and comparing lists, so I guess I’ll stick with what I’ve created so far!

I think the only way to get all of these ones is to go on the walk(s) yourself and get cards along the way. And that could be a pretty rewarding way to reach the goal!

I think the really hard one is the Frontiers of the Roman Empire - the sites are really scattered and some seem very ‘minor’ from the descriptions - definitely not tourist sites. 414 locations in all

Once you get serious about collecting UNESCO sites, this type of attention to detail is essential!

Australia may be putting forward a new UNESCO proposal, for pre-fab buildings shipped to Australia in the colonial era. Apparently, we have more of these surviving than the rest of the world in total, although that seems hard to confirm.

Warning for list completists - there are 100+ buildings in the proposal. Some of these, like the wooden house below, are right in my neighbourhood. This building came from Singapore! I will try to take a stroll there this weekend.

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And as I was looking for any other stories about this, I discovered another proposal being considered, for Victoria’s Goldfields. This one seems like it has a long way to go before the proposal is made, as it covers a huge area with hundreds of locations. And questions like whether you are only considering the mining sites, or the building boom associated with the gold rush.

The region, covered by the 12 councils, encompasses 40,000 square kilometres, or 17 per cent of the Victorian state.

Hundreds of significant gold mining sites and examples of architecture can be found within this vast area.

Australia is going hard with the UNESCO plans at the moment!

Saw in the news today another planned site, Fossil sites in the Flinders Ranges - this one is already onto the Tentative List (added just a couple of weeks ago).

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