Mail to China (2022 temporary suspension)

The situation is recovery now.Here is the proof of recent regist mail route.From Croatia. See for yourself.

Can I be a bit of interpreter, may @paulo forgive me :sweat_smile:

Means admins do not support country blaming-shaming and do all in their power to delete hurtful comments (since the team is small it takes time). The political posts on the thread were off-topic and were deleted because of that (admins were saying before that the political discussion are better to be handled in PMs)

Means respect for all Chinese users and for all who are affected by temporary mail delays. The decision is motivated mainly by statistics and similar decision are implemented towards other countries (Ukraine or Finland) on the regular basis without even letting users know, because the suspensions are so short. So actually making Chinese postcrossers on the forum aware of technical tweaks postcrossing team makes is showing how much team cares about one of the biggest part of our community - China.

Seems, that mail is picking up, so I hope it will be few days when 60% of cards will be delivered (60% is mentioned with the Ukraine postal situation as sort of threshold, as I presume) and the short suspension will be lifted. 60% is a standard, probably? Or something like 50%+?

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Why should I do that now?

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I’m also curious about that and would like to see on the website information such as 60-/90-/120-day moving registration rates, kinda like a stock graph :chart_with_upwards_trend: :chart_with_downwards_trend:

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I’m sure if the team never published the above, Chinese postcrossers wouldn’t have even noticed, with the long delivery times with China Post.

How hard is it understand this is Temporary and NO ONE is being punished!

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It is not fair for Chinese users! It’s slowly not can’t reach. You did a worse decision. Did you realize that Chinese users take a large part in this group!

Your post not only affected Chinese postcrossing members, but also affected other postcard swappers. when we try to swap postcard on other platform, there are a lot of people seeing this and thinking that China Post is not sending mails now, so they stop swapping with China.
Actually even the speed slow down now, i can still receive most of the mails from overseas. I just wonder how these statistics come out and why my only way of entertainment (swapping postcard) during such a desperate time period is being deprived…

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I’m very sure that enough people would still swap with Chinese postcrossers, Tags and RRs etc are open to all Postcrossers, too.

But if the majority of cards to a country will only arrive after they’ve expired it’s a problem for the officials (as the person’s are still due a card, their address is given out again etc) and automatic suspensions hitting both senders and recipients due to not registering on time. Resulting in more support work for the small admin team.

It doesn’t matter for swaps at all, there are no such automations etc. We may wait patiently for those. Personally I’m happy to still send non official cards to Chinese postcrossers and hope the backlog of official cards will soon be resolved and the routes restored.

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I started Postcrossing in April and one of the first 5 letters I was able to send was to China, but I’m sad to say it hasn’t arrived yet.
I feel like a stranger if they stop sending to my country.
I’m still a newbie, but if I’m in a similar situation, I won’t have time to be sad because even if I can’t receive the message, I can still send it somewhere else in the world!
That’s the mission of postcrossers!

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I hope so…Anyway I already saw some people saying that they stop swapping with China on Instagram. I just feel frustrated about this situation… :cry: :cry:

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Thank you for explaining your decision so thoroughly, Paulo!

I feel really sorry for the Chinese Postcrossers but I also understand that you can’t make a vote about this kind of issue when you’re responsible for a big project like Postcrossing. As Paulo pointed out, the not-arriving of postcards also affects the senders; it’s necessary to weigh both sides. As the statistics show proof of a problem, I comprehend that ignoring it longer isn’t a solution.

Honestly, it makes me truly sad that some members keep attacking the admins, although they really explained their decision. I understand the frustration, but it can’t justify some of the harsh replies.

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I can probably get fired from my job for posting this (so don’t tell on me), but this is Austria postal development this week:

(Due to backlog we have to suspend mail to China - hope to reopen asap, doing our best)

So there is a real problem out there, no mean hateful conspiracy.

As always, emotion is not the best answer to a development, esp. to a decision that no one involved made carelessley.

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Actually is it possible to apply an expiry rule differently to senders and recipients?

  • For the sender, after 60 days, a slot becomes open to draw a new address.
  • For the recipient, after 120 days, their address is put back into the pool for matching.

Whatever it is, since forum membership is still optional, everything that one needs to know about Postcrossing should be made available on the website.

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I’m shocked and sad to see all the abuse and insults going towards the admins who put so much work into a platform that is FREE to use! Where is the respect for the people who had this vision and brought it to life for ALL of us to enjoy?

China used to be one of my favourite countries to exchange with because of the polite members with beautiful penmanship, artful decorations and great quality postcards and stamps. I missed Chinese exchanges a lot during the pandemic and was very excited when the postal routes reopened.

But now I have seen what this community really thinks about my country. Thanks for opening my eyes to this.

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Once again: the update is not anti-Chinese. A year ago, Postcrossing suspended Russian addresses for Finnish users because the statistics showed that for some reason Finnish postcards are not being delivered. We appreciated the diligence of the admins. Once the backlog of postcards started to reach their destination, the route Finland => Russia resumed.

Please understand, Postcrossing treats all countries equally. :heart:

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I trust the decision of the admins as I am sure it was based on data. My personal story: I stopped doing private swaps with China because my cards never arrived. I did get the ones from China, though.

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I think the best attitude to certain sensitive out of context talk is not to reply or engage in the conversation. It’s out of topic too and so far the admins have made it clear with logical reasons of why the temporary suspension to China is being placed now. There’s no need for further arguments, since it won’t change anything for now, not until there are reports about traveling postcards to China are being registered

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I just received the letter from Germany.It sent in April 18th
@Eyvindr

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I have to express my opinion here, and I’m not writing as a moderator, but as a normal postcrosser.

I am so tired of reading the far-fetched arguments and especially the insults and insinuations against Paulo.

Paulo put his heart and soul into this site because he wanted to make it possible for people from all over the world to get in touch with each other by writing postcards.

We have all been using this site for years, mind you, without paying a fee for it.
We are all not in a position to make demands, the most we can do is ask for something.
But if that request cannot be fulfilled, and at the same time we are told why not, then we have to accept that.

It is an impertinence on your part to act as if there is nothing more important than cards being sent to you from all countries, but only 5% of which reach you.

Just wait until the situation of your post has changed and we can all write cards to China again.
Personally, I will probably no longer be able to do this with the same joy as before, which I regret very much.

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Some examples for you from the time when suddenly Finnish post didn’t reach their destinations in Russia last year and the route was suspended for a while. Maybe these will give you some help when the route will be reopened.

And this was the situation when the route was reopened.

I understand that people are disappointed about this solution but some of the writings are just horrible to read.

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