Mail to China (2022 temporary suspension)

I tend to purchase complete sets of stamp issues. Since the throttling ended, 9 cards out of the 10 I drew are to China! I then realised that a certain denomination of stamps (HK$3.7, the airmail price to China) had been piling up in my collection and I am so relieved that I get to use them now. :tada: It’s true, I could have used the $3.7s for mail to USA/Europe, but in order for me to fill the postage to make the HK$5.4 postage required for those zones, it required using “boring” definitives that took up a lot of the address space.

In short, this is an unexpected and exciting development for me, that I get to use my $3.7s now! Yay!

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Why is this flagged? Why do people flag everything nowadays? Some of my posts were deleted recently.
Today’s society is so sensitive :see_no_evil: :hear_no_evil: :speak_no_evil:

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I asked, so maybe it comes back.
It is about mail to China, and trying to help a multiprofiler in China will understand they might get hundreds of cards at once, and yes, they will need to register it too. It is fully related to this topic.

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It is not friendly to imply that Chinese users may not manage to register all the cards they receive.
And likewise, this is not the place to judge whether someone manages to maintain their double account.

The post was not deleted.
You have the option to edit it or delete it yourself if you don’t want to edit it.

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What part please implies it, I will edit it. (Edit. I added a sentence, now it maybe it’s more clear.)
It’s my honest hope. No judging. There are my cards travelling to China as well.

Also, I think it is helpful to let everyone know, the card might arrive in huge patches when the differences are huge.

My other post was deleted, while the post that I answered wasn’t.
Very hard when other members can write about a topic here, but replies to that are not ok.

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Every user who has a big difference of sent/recd knows that he will get many cards.
I don’t think it’s necessary to point this out, especially not with the addition:

Please edit your post to that effect or delete it.


I think we can put an end to this discussion.
I am sure that the Chinese users will be pleased to receive cards again and will be happy to register them.

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Maybe someone from China could tell, are there better possibilities to get it/get it sooner when it’s in the envelope? I tried to quickly look, perhaps there is this already talked somewhere?

I mostly try to write it in Chinese, but to my last card I made a mistake, and couldn’t write over the correction pen, so I wrote to a label, in English.

I noticed having the telephone number is now very common, let’s hope this will help too :slight_smile:

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This is not true. Some members didn’t know their address will be given at once/very soon after becoming active.

Well, if glorifying multiple accounts is ok, and if that post can be here in this topic, why not my view to this? Edit. I edited the joke part, if that makes their post ok, mine is with the same theme, which maybe wasn’t that clear.

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I drew a bunch of Chinese addresses too yesterday (repeated countries on) and am happy that they can participate in Postcrossing again! :smiley:

The suspension was hard on the Chinese members, but it was made to prevent all our cards getting stuck with Chinese Post and expire. So Chinese members had to be patient and endure being able to send only for a long time. Now it’s our turn to send cards and be patient until they arrive. :relieved:

I understand that it’s not great for members who don’t have many slots when they get a lot of adresses for the same country, with longer travel times. But we have to think of the Chinese members too, who couldn’t recieve a single official card for months!

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Hmm… I was replying before, then gave up and now: I have no evidence as it’s not me, and I don’t think it’s friendly to ask her for something proving herself and showing here. I totally understand your worries when so many cards sending to same place. But just a reminder: Chinese users keep registering cards during last 7,5 months, less than before of course, but still do when cards find them, which is same to her. You may get concerned by my previous words that system has stoped her requesting new addresses, that’s because there seems to be a limited number or percentage of the gap between sent and received, as someone mentioned beore. Now you know if she coundn’t register cards properly, she can’t even draw addresses. That’s what was happening here during last 10 months: when some of us gave up expecting to find cards lying in mailbox and turn to focus on sending and dream a mail burst in coming future, then soon found they even couldn’t send more. :astonished: She is doing well both on sending and registering, so is allowed to send more by system till have such a huge gap. Let’s trust it when we can’t trust each other. :wink:
For me, my account is still inactive. I quit 2 years ago for private reason, and started to send cards firstly anyway 2 months ago and got a very small gap now. Of course I know if I turn to active many cards will fly to me, but I decided to keep inactive for a while as others have waited too long.

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Didn’t their domestic mail work during all this still? I remember someone saying it worked well, so if they chose to send within China, they got cards too, so it wasn’t total “no mail” if the mail from China was ok to them?

But yes, I have kept repeated for very long, sometimes it was a lot of Russia, sometimes Germany, sometimes USA. Sometimes in history it has been Finland.

I think the long travel times is perhaps not even the main worry, but the memory of having cards not arrive. Even though they know and understand this seems better now. So let’s hope for new better experiences and memories. (For example one of my cards to Belarus got lost, so for very long, I always had that in my head, when writing there. And to think this would be many many cards…it’s understandable to be worried, maybe even not want to send (when it’s good to have a pause).

So, now, understanding both and all possible ways :smile:

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Definitely I’m not asking anyone to showing themselves here (unless they want to).
I’m not worried sending cards to same place, I do it most of the time.

Yes, Chinese users kept registering cards, but like you wrote, less.

What is my concern: when they now get the cards, it will be more. For some much more.
That alone is a lot of work to register. And not to mention if these are to different accounts, so it will make it slower/harder.

Some members have thought, the addresses will be given few at time, but it’s not like that.
Sometimes when members come back to active, they keep themselves active for only minute or two, and then are inactive again → so they only get the amount of mail they can handle.

As this is now probably off topic, I try to find to inactive - active -thread later, I think it could be very helpful to Chinese members, who have been inactive and now are back to active, and have no experience in how it works.

So I think my main worry is, members get hundreds of card, and they notice it’s too much work, especially if it’s for multiple accounts, and then stop. (This has nothing to do about the nationality, this would worry me in same amount, if this happened in Finland, but I write in this thread because it’s now China where it happened. And because I know some members have thought, if they sent 300 when inactive for 6 months, they will these during 6 moths, but no, they can get most of these in a week. )

Edit.
in this topic is discussion about coming back to active after being inactive mode:

and here:

(this is actually talked about several topics)

Of course I don’t know how much you talk about this in Chinese community, but I hope you do, and ask help if it turns overwhelming.

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According to the USPS, address needs to be written in English. Perhaps in other countries, it is ok as you mention.

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I’m new to Postcrossing and I’ve only moved three addresses to China. Two of them have already expired and I just sent one. (I haven’t received a postcard from China yet). Of course I’m impatient and I hope that my postcards will reach the recipient quickly. But there are many different places in the mail where the postcards can be stopped. Difficult (or impossible) to tell where and why the postcard got stuck. At Postcrossing I learned how to deal better with my impatience.
But what’s most important to me are the many great and nice people I’ve met in the short time I’ve been at Postcrossing. I find it fascinating how different people from different countries work together to organize and improve communication with each other. Personally, I think it’s important to talk to each other. That’s why I’m with Postcrossing.
For the postcrossers in China (and of course for everyone else too) I hope that things will go faster soon.

personal consideration.
I like to take my time to write postcards. Also to answer it. So if I notice that the flood of postcards is increasing, I will limit myself and regulate the flow of postcards myself, even if that means that I have to do without a postcard in the mailbox for a long time. I want to avoid losing what is special about postcrossing for me. (Sometimes less is more.) That’s why I put so much effort into the postcards I send to China. When they arrive (which I hope) I want the recipient to be happy and see that I’m genuinely interested.

(Communication is important, also (or because of that) if it means that you have different opinions.)

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Actually section 122 of the USPS IMM, while it does say full address in English, further down it makes an exception. Section 122.1d. If it is not known in English, then use Roman letters and Arabic numbers as in English. The paragraph also suggests using the character set of the destination country if possible. So it is almost exactly like the UPU rule (which also states Name of destination country should also be in a language familiar to the originating one so yes, we Americans should at least have that in English).

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My bad. Section 122 does not explicitly suggest using foreign languages in the address to facilitate delivery as does the UPU manual. I got the two confused. I think it is just common sense to include Chinese, Russian, Arabic, whatever, if known to avoid “lost in translation”

I can’t get the link to work so the UPU rules are at: www.upu.int
Click menu in upper right then

Click on Postal Solutions>Programmes and Services> Addressing Solutions and scroll from there to International Addressing (may have to scroll quite bit to get there)

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I work with repeated countries most of the time as I like to balance the system! :wink:

Since yesterday I draw 14 addresses and well, one of these people manages two accounts. But while printing out his Chinese addresses I realize, that there is a little difference in both addresses. I just want to share this information with you!

My other idea: if you realize you are writing to the same account again, write the Nickname (EDIT: printed as link) on your card: I am writing to XXX - no problem, isn’t it?!

Take care and have fun writing cards! :love_letter:

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My message trying to help with multiple accounts was deleted so maybe this (part of ) yours will too, but I agree with this tip. (And that all tips can be useful.) Account name clearly somewhere, and also putting them in the same envelope could help (of course only if it’s the same address), telling you got two/three/how many their accounts, so they will see at once to put them in different registering pile. And also this maybe saves postage, so you can send one/two/etc more :+1: to help the Chinese get their cards faster. (And sometimes it’s thought envelopes arrive more certainly, that mail in envelopes would be more important, compared to bare postcard. I don’t know if this is true, or true with mail to China)

Today I had a card to Chinese member, most fitting to their wish list, but the address part in the card was so small, and I didn’t want to cover the photographer information, so I wrote the English version of the address. I think now I will soon have good amount of profiles to compare if it really matters in the bigger picture :slight_smile: Maybe the telephone number will be enoughly helping, and of course the English address must be working too, not all can write the Chinese address (like me, but I still try :smile: ).

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I recently sent an envelope to Ukraine that was otherwise all Cyrillic. My address was included so that if USPS had an objection they could easily have returned the envelope to me.

Bear in mind that this is the same manual that requires airmail stickers in all cases.

I also drew several Chinese addresses today - I’m very glad to see things are back to normal! :slight_smile: And, yes, there must be a huge backlog of Chinese addresses right now in the system. Our Chinese friends had to wait for months! I hope they receive those cards soon!

About the addresses: when sending from Germany, printing the address in Chinese script and just writing CHINA in Latin letters below always worked perfectly fine. I also always add an airmail sticker - no idea if that makes things faster or not, but I figured it can’t hurt.

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